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Pentagon fraud: Coste, Chandler deceive about England claims: Part 2

While Coste and Chandler claim it was the small piece at the far left of the frame that England was saying hit his cab, CIT video proves it was not.

They push 757 impact by falsely stating England never claimed long end of pole hit his cab: but he did – on camera!

April 28, 2019

This is the second of a two-part report on the Lloyde England story. I would strongly recommend reading Part 1 (which offers a detailed analysis of why England’s story simply does not stand up to scrutiny) before reading this article. In Part 2, I look at the attempts by a small group within the Truth Movement to con us into believing that the England story is entirely true and that it supports a large plane impact with the Pentagon.

Apparently [CIT] forgot to ask the key question(s): “Lloyd, [sic] how long was the pole?  Give us an estimate.  How long was the pole?  Can you estimate that in feet?  – Wayne Coste on the listserv of the 9/11 and Other Deep State Crimes Teleconference, Jan. 6, 2017

How long do you think the pole was, approximately? – CIT’s Craig Ranke to England in Lloyde England and His Taxicab: The Eye of the Storm, 2008

I’d say the pole was 30 to 40 foot long. – Lloyde England, responding to Ranke

It was about 40 foot long. – Lloyde England to Jeff Hill, 2010

By Craig McKee

In their continuing mission to convince the 9/11 Truth Movement that the U.S. government is telling the truth about a 757 hitting the Pentagon, Wayne Coste and David Chandler are grossly and deliberately misrepresenting key parts of two interviews that taxi driver Lloyde England gave to Citizen Continue reading

Why do we tolerate a ‘truther’ cabal that constantly props up almost all of the 9/11 Pentagon official story?


England says it was the “long end” of the pole, the part attached to the ground, that penetrated his cab. Coste says it wasn’t this pole at all but the top of another pole.

So much is false in the Pentagon story – why would some ‘truthers’ spend years describing what they think is true?

September 4, 2018

By Craig McKee

What would you think if a group of truth activists, known for other areas of 9/11 research, turned their attention to writing papers, making videos, giving talks, and doing interviews telling us all the ways they thought NIST’s analysis of the World Trade Center destruction was correct?

What if they almost never questioned NIST’s findings but instead did everything they could to undermine any challenges to NIST from members of the Truth Movement? What if they told us they did this to keep the movement from losing credibility, to keep us from looking like crazy conspiracy theorists with wild ideas about Continue reading

Is science being used to reveal the truth about 9/11 or to conceal it?

By Craig McKee

Sometimes it seems like it takes more energy to understand the 9/11 Truth movement than it does to understand 9/11.
While you often see contentious and aggressive debates on line between truthers and those who support the official story, you’re just as likely to get such exchanges between two people who claim to believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Understandably, science is often touted by truthers and official-story-believers alike as being essential to evaluating 9/11 evidence. And this makes perfect sense. Why should we accept someone’s gut feeling when we can quantify something?
Looking at melting points, collapse times, and jet fighter velocities are what’s going to dazzle the millions of regular people who are just waiting to hear the latest 9/11 research. Right? We wouldn’t want to say anything that can’t be verified scientifically, Continue reading

Taxi driver comes close to admitting he was part of 9/11 cover story


December 27, 2010

By Craig McKee

If there is an Achilles heel to the official 9/11 cover story, it has to be Lloyde England.
The Washington D.C. taxi driver is an essential part of the official story that American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon at 9:38 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2001. His car is supposed to have been hit by one of the light poles knocked over by the plane right before it hit the Pentagon. This story was supposed to offer rock solid confirmation of the Pentagon government account. Instead, it’s the weakest link.
Not only is England’s version of what happened to him that day not supported by the witnesses or the physical evidence (as we shall see), but in an unguarded moment in the film National Security Alert (by Citizen Investigation Team), England came very close to admitting he had been a part of the conspiracy.
England told CIT (he didn’t realize the camera was running, but he clearly Continue reading